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Foresters' Arms, 15 Baldwins Hill, Loughton, Essex IG10 1SF

The Foresters Arms, Baldwins Hill, Loughton - circa 1894

The Foresters Arms, Baldwins Hill, Loughton - circa 1894

Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill pre 1910

Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill pre 1910

Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill in 2000

Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill in 2000

All kindly provided by Margaret Wood

Residents at this address.

My Essex ancestors were the Grout family of Loughton. As far back as I have been able to go, early to mid 1700, the family were living on Baldwins Hill in a loppers cottage. This became a beer shop, then grocer and beer shop, and eventually The Foresters Arms, which it remains today.

I understand that my particular branch of the family remained in the pub until the 1920s some time - could even have been later. I believe the Grout family who at one time owned Foresters and Gardeners were reasonably " well off" and owned quite a few cottages in the vicinity of Baldwins Hill, which they sold. They also held title to some of Epping Forest a large part of which was appropriated by the council - way, way, back.

Another branch of the family had the Gardeners Arms on York Hill. My grandparents Grout had the Anchor Inn and the Kings Head in Guisborough. (N.Yks). My aunt Hampson had the Buck Hotel in Guisborough. Aunt Hampson then had the Old Dog in Preston, Lancs., and the Mount Pleasant, Cocker St/High St Blackpool. Father-in-law Wood had the Crown and Anchor in Redcar North Yorkshire ***

1874/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kellys

1878/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kellys

1881/George Grout/Licensed Victualler/37/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Eliza J. Grout/Wife/38/Waltham, Essex/Census
1881/Percy E. Grout/Son/8/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Florence E. Grout/Daughter/6/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Beatrice C. Grout/Daughter/4/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Mary E. Grout/Daughter/2/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Harriet Enever/Sister, Assistant Fancy Repository (FGT)/40/Waltham, Essex/Census
1881/Caroline Enever/Sister, Barmaid/39/Waltham, Essex/Census

1882/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kellys

Note: Prior to 1885, premises only named in 1881

1885/George Grout/../../../Kellys*

1886/Mrs. Eliza Jane Grout/../../../Kellys

1894/Percy Grout/../../../Kellys

1895/Percy Grout/../../../Kellys

1898/Percy Grout/../../../Kellys

1899/P. Grout/../../../Kellys

1902/Percy Grout/../../../Kellys

1908/Percy E. Grout/../../../Kellys

1912/Percy Enever Grout/../../../Kellys

1917/Mrs. Lilian May Miller/../../../Kellys

Thomas John William Terry was the licensee at the "Green Man", Halliday Walk (later Mildmay Street) in 1915-1917. He also had the "Carlton Tavern", which he took over in 1918.

Elsie Florence Terry on the Ind, Coope & Company tenancy agreement, dated 12th June 1918 for the Foresters, Loughton

Kindly provided by John Carnaby

Elsie Florence Terry on the Ind, Coope & Company tenancy agreement, dated 12th June 1918 for the Foresters, Loughton

In 1918, Elsie Florence Terry (wife of Thomas John William Terry) is shown on the Coope & Company tenancy agreement, dated 12th June 1918 for the Green Man, 32 Haliday Walk, N1. **
Also on 12th June 1918 Elsie Florence Terry is shown on the Ind, Coope & Company tenancy agreement for the Foresters Arms, Loughton.
In the very same year of these two agreements, Elsie Florence Terry became ill and later died at the young age of 29 years, at the Foresters Arms in October 1918.

He was the licensee at "Foresters Arms" Loughton in 1918 (where his first wife Elsie died). Then he was the licensee at the "Gower Arms" Store Street in 1923, and the licensee in 1925 - 1926 at the Denbigh Arms, Denbigh Place, with his second wife Florence Ellen. When Thomas John William Terry died in 1930 (aged 41), the probate shows him at the "Beaumont Arms" Uxbridge Road. I am not sure whether his second wife Florence Ellen continued there.  He was my Grandmother Carnabys Brother. **

1925/Fred Tolson/../../../Kellys

1933/Alfred W. Helliar/../../../Kellys

2018, The Foresters Arms, 15 Baldwins Hill, Loughton, Essex IG10 1SF

* Provided by the Pubs, Inns and Taverns Index for England, 1801-1900

** Provided By John Carnaby

*** Provided by Margaret Wood


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