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Grapes Tavern, 30 Thomas Street, Southwark St John Horsleydown, London

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In 1839, the address of the Grapes is at 51 Gainsford Street. The address in the 1923 electoral register is at 30 Curlew street, which is at the junction with Gainsford street (about number 50).

A listing of historical London public houses, Taverns, Inns, Beer Houses and Hotels in Southwark St John Horsleydown, Surrey, London. The Southwark St John Horsleydown, Surrey , London listing uses information from census, Trade Directories and History to add licensees, bar staff, Lodgers and Visitors.

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I am still on the hunt for my ancestor Paul Rider and have searched the victualler licence records.
I have him listed as publican from 1818 -1827 at the corner of Gainsford Street and Thomas Street. I had been told that this pub was THE GRAPES but that may be a name given to it later because Paul is listed at that address but the pub is actually called SHIPS IN DISTRESS.
The person who continually stood surity for Paul Rider was Evan Owan of the Rose and Crown at Shad Thames. This is not the same Rose and Crown that Paul was later Publican of at 113 Long Lane Bermondsey.
My ancestor, Paul Rider [Ryder], is listed as publican of The Grapes, Gainsford Street Horsleydown in 1828. Between 1836 -1941 he is listed as publican of The Rose and Crown ,Long Lane, Bermondsey. He moved to Stockton Durham in 1841 [before the census] and died there in 1843. On his death certificate he is given as a licensed victualler. His wife Sarah is listed in Wear Street Sunderland 1851 census as a publican **

1822/Paul Rider/Ship in Distress/../../Victuallers Recognizance

1823/Paul Rider/Ship in Distress/../../Victuallers Recognizance

1825/Paul Rider/Ship in Distress/../../Victuallers Recognizance

1826/Paul Ryder/Ship in Distress/../../Victuallers Recognizance

1828/Paul Rider/../../../.. **

1834/Paul Rider, formerly of the 'Ship in Distress' Public House, Gainsford Street, Horsleydown, Victualler and Dealer in Hams, then of No 75 Free School Street, Horsleydown, both in Surrey, and late of No 23, Baths Buildings, City Road, Middlesex, out of business./London Gazette Online

1839/John Hill/../../../Pigots Directory

1851/Mrs Sarah Remnant/../../../Kellys Directory

1851/Sarah Remnant/Victualler, Widow/60/Clavering, Essex/Census
1851/John Pidding/Nephew, Victualler/19/Clavering, Essex/Census
1851/Margaret Cartwright/Servant/17/St Johns, Surrey/Census
1851/Ann Saunders/Visitor, Widow/46/Wiltshire/Census

November 1854/Sarah Remnant/ Outgoing Licensee /../../The Era

November 1854/John Thomas Jewiss and Daniel Jewiss/ Incoming Licensee /../../The Era

December 1856/John Thomas Jerviss and Daniel Jerviss/Outgoing Licensee/../../Era

December 1856/Henry Wright/Incoming Licensee/../../Era

1869/William Henry Billers/../../../Post Office Directory

This is probably the William Billers who is at the White Lion, 29 leather Lane by the 1871 census

September 1870/Louis William Samuel Innocent/Outgoing Licensee/../../Era Newspaper

September 1870/Philip Edward Daniels/Incoming Licensee/../../Era Newspaper

1871/P E Daniels/Licensed Victualler/26/Southampton Hants/Census  ***
1871/C Daniels/Wife/26/Kingsley Hants/Census
1871/W Lucas/Servant Potman/23/Petworth Sussex/Census
1871/Ellen Drummond/Servant Gen/20/Bermondsey Surrey/Census

1881/John Burdett/Licensed Victualler/42/Aylestone, Leicester/Census
1881/Amelia Burdett/Wife/40/London, Middlesex/Census
1881/John G Burdett/Son/8/London, Middlesex/Census
1881/William Jones/Potman/32/Bristol/Census

1882/John Burdett/../../../Post Office Directory

1884/Thomas Peck/../../../Post Office Directory

30 Curlew street :

1891/John Brown/../../../Post Office Directory

1891/William Mattock/Licensed Victualler/38/Dartford, Kent/Census
1891/Mary Ann Mattock/Wife/38/Foots Cray, Kent/Census
1891/William Mattock/Son/15/Foots Cray, Kent/Census
1891/Lilian Mattock/Daughter/11/Plumstead, Kent/Census
1891/Annie Mattock/Daughter/8/Woolwich, Kent/Census
1891/Beatrice Mattock/Daughter/5/Plumstead, Kent/Census
1891/Percy Mattock/Son/3/Boro, London/Census
1891/Emma Wright/General Servant/23/Southall, Middlesex/Census

1895/John Brown/../../../Post Office Directory

1899/John Brown/../../../Post Office Directory

1915/Charles de Montford Hosgood/../../../Post Office Directory *

1921/Charles De Montford Hosgood/../../../Post Office Directory

1923/Thomas Wildig/Grapes/../../Electoral Register

1934/Albert Aird/../../../Post Office Directory *

At 50 Gainsford Street :

1938/Rd Smirthwaite/../../../Post Office Directory

1944/Rt Ernest Pither/../../../Post Office Directory

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