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At 11 Lisson Grove in 1841. At 14 Lisson Grove in 1869 and earlier. Long Demolished. *
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King Alfred, 28 Lisson Grove, Marylebone - in 1904
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1839/Charles Hibble/../../../Pigots Directory
1841/Joseph Emms/../../../Post Office Directory
1842/John Emms/../../../Robson's Directory *
1843/Joseph Emms/../../../Kellys Directory
1848/John Tonkonson/../../../Post Office Directory *
May 1849/John Tomkinson/Outgoing Licensee/../../Era Newspaper
May 1849/Edward Lacy/Incoming Licensee/../../Era Newspaper
1851/Edward Lacy/../../../Kellys Directory
1856/John Heslop/../../../Post Office Directory
Morning Advertiser 23 April 1863
Marylebone - Three desperate characters committed for conspiracy - William Veazey, George Cherry and Thomas Goddard, rough looking men, the two former having been transported, and the latter several times convicted, brought up on remand for conspiring to defraud several publicans out of liquor.
Samuel Fitzjohn, landlord of the King Alfred, Lisson grove, said - I know the three prisoners. On the 8th of April they came into my house at half past three, with two other men. Veazey was like a labourer, with his shirt sleeves turned up and a flannel jacket hanging on his arm. He called for two pots of beer, and said "we are working up the Grove, and the governor has sent us to have some beer and he will be down to pay for it".
I supplied the beer on the faith of that statement, and did not ask who the governor was. They drank the beer, and asked for two pots more. Cherry said "All right, the governor will be here to pay for it". I refused to draw anymore till the first two pots had been paid for. They became very abusive, and I ordered them out of the bouse, and they went one by one. When they said "Up the Grove", I understood they meant Lisson Grove. I have made inquiries, and find that there is no building work going on there.
William Cook of the Exeter Arms, Exeter street, Lisson grove said. On the 8th instance, the three prisoners, with two others entered my house at a quarter to three. Veazey called for two pots of beer and a quarter of rum, and I asked who was to pay for it, and they said the governor was coming in and he would pay, as they were working up the Grove. I drew the beer and as they were about finishing the first pot I rather suspected them, and took the other pot away and the quartern of rum. I said I would let that remain until the governor came.
William Butcher of the Brazen Head, Lisson street, Lisson grove, said the three prisoners, with two other men came to my house about half past four o'clock on the 8th, Veazey called for two pots of beer, which my barman served them with, and called me as they would not pay. I asked Veazey for the money, and he said he would pay directly, and pretended to put his hand in his pocket. Goddard said, if you have not the money, it is only a debt. I said "Pay me if you are going to pay". Cherry then said "draw me two pots more. I have the money here." and tapped something on the counter like a crown piece, but which I afterwards found was a medal, and I went and got a policeman. They had had two pots of beer, rum and bread and cheese to the amount of 2 shillings 7 pence. When the policeman came Veazey ran out and said "What the ___ do you want here, you have nothing to do with it.". Goddard and Cherry said the same. I told them to go out as they were a set of vagabonds, and Goddard turned round and dared me to put hands on him, and Cherry put himself in a fighting attitude, and struck me. Goddard at the same time, said "let me get at the ___ and I will murder him." Cherry offered to leave a medal with me, and I refused to take it.
Edward Thomas Hibbert, barman to last witness, stated - the three prisoners came into the house about half past four, and Veazey called for some beer, bread and cheese, and rum. They had two lots of cheese and a half pint of rum. I asked them for payment, and Veazey said, "What are you frightened at," and pretended to get the money from his pocket when his master came out. They drank all the beer and rum.
John Jones of the Rock, Lisson grove, said - the three came into my house at a little after three o'clock on the 8th, and Veazey called for two pots of beer. After they were served I asked for money, and Veazey said I must be a fool to ask for it, as it was only a debt; for they had had only drink, and nothing to eat. They called for two more pots, and said they would settle for the four together. I refused to let them have them till the first two pots were paid for. They became violent and abusive, and said they would have a game at bagatelle, or go into my bedroom, or even come behind my bar. Goddard took up a quart pot, and hammered away on the counter, and demanded two more pots of beer. As I was determined with them they went away.
The prisoners were captured by Sergeant Webb, 11D, and House 97D, who added that all three had been before convicted.
Mr Yardley committed them all for trial.
1869/Samuel Fitzjohn/../../../Post Office Directory
1874/S. Fitzjohn/../../../Licensed Victuallers and Hotel Keepers Directory *
1881/Charles Trowman/Licensed Victualler/22/Paddington, Middlesex/Census
1881/Martha Trowman/Wife/22/Baldock, Hertford/Census
1881/Alice Day/Barmaid/21/Clerkenwell, Middlesex/Census
1881/Martha Clements/General Servant/21/Baldock, Hertford/Census
1881/Louisa Jackson/Barmaid/22/Peterboro, Northampton/Census
1881/Thomas F Kent/Potman/20/Battersea, Middlesex/Census
1882/Charles Newman/../../../Post Office Directory
1884/Alfred Whaley/../../../Post Office Directory
1891/Albert Whaley/../../../Post Office Directory
1895/Albert Whaley/../../../Post Office Directory
1899/Alfred McMurtrie/../../../Post Office Directory
1906/Percy Collinson/../../../Post Office Directory *
1910/Percy Jas Tate/../../../Post Office Directory
1915/Mrs Charlotte Shuter/../../../Post Office Directory
1921/Henry Clarke/../../../Post Office Directory *
In 1921 census at 28, Lisson Grove, St Marylebone
Henry Clarke, Licensed Victualler, aged 29 years 6 months, born in St Pancras, Middlesex, the Employer
Ethel Clarke, Wife, aged 29 years 6 months, born in Islington, London
Hannah Gordon, Cook, Widow, aged 65 years 9 months, born in Bermondsey, London
Henry Clarke, Son, aged 5 years 1 month, born in Marylebone, London
Elsie May Clarke, Daughter, aged 11 years 2 months, born in Clerkenwell, London
Lizzie Sharpner, Barmaid, aged 28 years 5 months, born in London
Naomi Lewis, Barmaid, aged 21 years 3 months, born in Porth, South Wales
[9th Apil 1918, at Aldrington, Robert John Brown, D.S.M., Petty Officer, R.N., marries Agnes Minnie Lucy Vousden, of 54 St Leonard's Road. In 1920 and 1921, they are woking at her fathers public house, the Wheatsheaf, 329 Edgware road, Paddington W2 **]
1922-1925 : The pub was ran by Robert John Brown and Agnes Minnie Lucy Ann Brown (Nee Vousden) **
1927/Robert John Brown/../../../Post Office Directory *
1934/Rd Styles Allen & Harry Edward Fryer/../../../Kellys Directory
1938/Sims & Herrington/../../../Post Office Directory
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